My brain has been pretty wrapped up in thinking about this video I saw.
Here it is...
http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php
Monday, May 25, 2009
Sunday, May 24, 2009
Primitive
They tell me that Abraham most likely did not see YHWH (God) in the same way we see him today. In fact, it is pretty likely that Abraham may have even died, with a very small inkling that God (YHWH) was the only God, and that he most likely thought that God was just his God, not the only God. This is a little unsettling for me. Am I simply following a religion made up by some guy that thought his God was the best, and that the other 'gods' weren't as good - which evolved into his subsequent followers claiming all other ‘gods’ as false?
I mostly think about this because I look at today's vision of who God is to us. We have Christianity (and probably God) so tied up in this era of Modernism that some people have a really hard time giving up the thoughts of modernism. Christianity, at one point in time, was quite opposed to science, and still is to some degree. But it seems that with each scientific development, Christianity (and often times our view of God) changes with these same developments we once opposed, but now see as obvious truth. We've found that the earth revolves around the sun, that the earth is round - not flat, and that secular knowledge is helpful. No thanks to the Christians for destroying many prominent works, such as the Library of Alexandria. These oppositions set the world hundreds of years backwards in terms of technology. Yet, Christianity has outlived all those atrocities, and technological changes. We thought that every dodgy woman was a witch, and came up with ludicrous ideas to capture them, but now we're too mature for those things. But when did God change? When did God decide that witches were okay to kill, but now we can't kill unborn children? Is one of these lives more important than the other? I feel that there may be a missing link somewhere. It’s just hard for me because I see the way that technology has a way of proving itself, even in the face of Christian hostility. And that, often times, Christians are too stuck to their old ways of thinking, that we can’t move on.
Which is why I find myself so sympathetic to post-modern thinking. Because in order for the church to continue in it’s practice of staying relevant, and accepting changes, it must adapt to new ways of thought. That maybe we don’t have everything right, that we (literally) aren’t the centre of the universe.
But that brings me back to my original point. Do we think this way because we are bound to be this way? Is Christianity just an evolved religion that stems from a tribal religious inspiration? I would sure like to hope not.
-Mark.
I mostly think about this because I look at today's vision of who God is to us. We have Christianity (and probably God) so tied up in this era of Modernism that some people have a really hard time giving up the thoughts of modernism. Christianity, at one point in time, was quite opposed to science, and still is to some degree. But it seems that with each scientific development, Christianity (and often times our view of God) changes with these same developments we once opposed, but now see as obvious truth. We've found that the earth revolves around the sun, that the earth is round - not flat, and that secular knowledge is helpful. No thanks to the Christians for destroying many prominent works, such as the Library of Alexandria. These oppositions set the world hundreds of years backwards in terms of technology. Yet, Christianity has outlived all those atrocities, and technological changes. We thought that every dodgy woman was a witch, and came up with ludicrous ideas to capture them, but now we're too mature for those things. But when did God change? When did God decide that witches were okay to kill, but now we can't kill unborn children? Is one of these lives more important than the other? I feel that there may be a missing link somewhere. It’s just hard for me because I see the way that technology has a way of proving itself, even in the face of Christian hostility. And that, often times, Christians are too stuck to their old ways of thinking, that we can’t move on.
Which is why I find myself so sympathetic to post-modern thinking. Because in order for the church to continue in it’s practice of staying relevant, and accepting changes, it must adapt to new ways of thought. That maybe we don’t have everything right, that we (literally) aren’t the centre of the universe.
But that brings me back to my original point. Do we think this way because we are bound to be this way? Is Christianity just an evolved religion that stems from a tribal religious inspiration? I would sure like to hope not.
-Mark.
Saturday, May 16, 2009
Inclusive...
I read a really interesting article today by Brian McLaren. It's essentially a walkthorugh (I hesitate to use the word commentary) of John 14:6 and the context surrounding it [because, although I haven't read Newbigin, I think that his work ought to be the one deemed a commentary]. Now, that bracket isn't to say that Brian McLaren has no authority on this subject, I'm just saying it's clearly not written to serve as a commentary.
But on to the point.
His premise is really built around the verse when Jesus says, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6). However, McLaren (and assumedly Newbigin) would argue that what Jesus is NOT talking about is heaven. And that what Jesus is referring to is actually the Kingdom of God. And to tell you the truth, it doesn't seem that crazy of an idea.
Do we honestly think that Jesus, the fleshly incarnation of God, would intervene in humanity to simply recreate a legalistic, elitist religion? You can clearly see that Jesus doesn't hold the Pharisees and Sadduccees in the highest of respects because of the way that they've seriously degraded Judaism, and made it about ritualism, as opposed to the love and heartfelt compassion shown through the Ancient Israeli faith. Is it that we think Jesus came to destroy one religion to simply put another one up? Doesn't this seem a bit ludicrous?
Wasn't the death of God (on the cross) something for all people, in all time? Or was his death simply a way for us to change our course? Going from a set of legalistic Jewish customs to an equally legalistic set of Gentile customs?
It seems silly for Jesus to come, live a life of compassion, redemption, servitude and mercy, and then cut off all the people he sought to reach out to. His actions would be simply contradictory. However, I am really enjoying chewing on this idea that Jesus was really referring to the Kingdom of God here. Not that no one gets to this kingdom without Jesus, but that we don't need to worry how to get there. Just follow Jesus, and he'll take care of the rest. That the focus is not on inclusion or exclusion, but about love, and mercy.
Sometimes, though, when I think about this 'new approach' McLaren (and Newbigin) take, I have to think, 'Is this really new'? I think part of that has to do with the fact that I've never taken this verse and looked at it in context. Not to say that the classic interpretaiton is out of context, but just that I've always heard it quoted over and over on it's own.
The compassion and Jesus shows in his life doesn't seem to line up with the intensely exclusive interpretation of this verse. I can clearly see McLaren's point there. But I have a hard time thinking what else it could mean. I really just very confused by this. I'll have to read through his article a few more times to really understand what he's saying. It's good. Give it a read.
-Mark.
I guess my main concern is: "What if the questions we’re asking aren’t the ones that Jesus is interested in answering? What then?"
But on to the point.
His premise is really built around the verse when Jesus says, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6). However, McLaren (and assumedly Newbigin) would argue that what Jesus is NOT talking about is heaven. And that what Jesus is referring to is actually the Kingdom of God. And to tell you the truth, it doesn't seem that crazy of an idea.
Do we honestly think that Jesus, the fleshly incarnation of God, would intervene in humanity to simply recreate a legalistic, elitist religion? You can clearly see that Jesus doesn't hold the Pharisees and Sadduccees in the highest of respects because of the way that they've seriously degraded Judaism, and made it about ritualism, as opposed to the love and heartfelt compassion shown through the Ancient Israeli faith. Is it that we think Jesus came to destroy one religion to simply put another one up? Doesn't this seem a bit ludicrous?
Wasn't the death of God (on the cross) something for all people, in all time? Or was his death simply a way for us to change our course? Going from a set of legalistic Jewish customs to an equally legalistic set of Gentile customs?
It seems silly for Jesus to come, live a life of compassion, redemption, servitude and mercy, and then cut off all the people he sought to reach out to. His actions would be simply contradictory. However, I am really enjoying chewing on this idea that Jesus was really referring to the Kingdom of God here. Not that no one gets to this kingdom without Jesus, but that we don't need to worry how to get there. Just follow Jesus, and he'll take care of the rest. That the focus is not on inclusion or exclusion, but about love, and mercy.
Sometimes, though, when I think about this 'new approach' McLaren (and Newbigin) take, I have to think, 'Is this really new'? I think part of that has to do with the fact that I've never taken this verse and looked at it in context. Not to say that the classic interpretaiton is out of context, but just that I've always heard it quoted over and over on it's own.
The compassion and Jesus shows in his life doesn't seem to line up with the intensely exclusive interpretation of this verse. I can clearly see McLaren's point there. But I have a hard time thinking what else it could mean. I really just very confused by this. I'll have to read through his article a few more times to really understand what he's saying. It's good. Give it a read.
-Mark.
I guess my main concern is: "What if the questions we’re asking aren’t the ones that Jesus is interested in answering? What then?"
Wednesday, May 13, 2009
Long Overdue
So I couldn’t help thinking today: I hide a lot of my true thoughts. I was watching an episode of “The Simpsons” today in my communal kitchen (yeah, sorry Mom and Dad), and whenever anyone else would walk in, I would quickly, although not immediately (as if I were doing something wrong) shut my sound off/shut my laptop, so others wouldn’t see me watching ‘heretical’ cartoons.
It’s funny to think about really. There’s no sex. Very little swearing. And plus, they’re cartoons.
I do also do this far more often when I listen to music. In particular David Bazan, along with other music. Generally the kind that might have ‘colourful words’, I will in fact shut it as if there’s something wrong. I think I will continue to do so with music that has ‘cursing’ or what have you – since some people might get actually offended by that sort of stuff.
However, on the other hand, David Bazan has some crazy ideas. I’m pretty sure, that thinking of his writings, I would venture to say that he is by no means a Christian, although he used to certainly be. This really comes out in his lyrics. He writes a lot about doubt, which helps me struggle through what my faith means, what I believe, and all other sorts of ethical, moral and religious issues. His music, to me, really is deep and spiritual. However, he touches on topics like adultery, alcohol, and heresy a lot. I mean, a lot. Usually these stories are painted with a brush that reaches the “full breadth of the English language”.
But all that to say, I’d really like to be more open and honest about who I am, and especially what I think. I feel like I sometimes hide my thoughts from others. I don’t want to do that anymore. I guess I’d really like for this blog to turn into my actual thoughts, not really my happenings. The latter will surely affect it, but not solely based off of.
So here are some things that I’ve been thinking a lot about over the last year. And I mean really thinking about (in no particular order):
- If I had grown up in a Muslim, Hindu, or Jewish home (or any other religion), would I believe in that faith as much as I believe in this one? (Nature vs. Nurture…)
-How can the God of the Old Testament be the God of the New? They feel like two different personalities.
-If Jesus really was perfect, why didn’t he cast a stone at the adulterous woman? Or why did he pick grain on the Sabbath? Surely these are requirements of perfection as stated by OT law?…
-Does prayer actually work? I mean, we pray, and if nothing happens, that means God said either, “No,” or “Wait.” But if what we want to have happen happens, then God must’ve said, “Yes”. But really, did it make a difference? Or is there even an alternate reality based off of whether or not I prayed? A time-space-‘Y’ in the “road”, thus altering all of history? Or is my prayer really that important? Is it more for personal growth? (Maybe that is not only a theological question, but just as well, a physics thought. Not that I’ll get the answer, but that’s the point, right? Not really the answer, but the journey of the search for truth? See this for more on my train of thinking this... [http://www.tenthdimension.com/flash2.php]) And understand that I really do still appreciate your prayers just the same. And I’m not saying that your prayers (or mine) are worthless. I still find value in it.
- I’m beginning to think that I believe in inclusive salvation. If you’re not sure what that means, then ask me. I’d like to talk about it.
- I’m not sure whether I believe in creation or evolution. Put a gun to my head? Probably evolution. But not really meaning it with my heart. But if I said creation, my heart wouldn’t be in it either…
- I am having a harder time telling other people they’re wrong (not that I was big on it in the first place). And I’m increasingly using the phrase “Well, what I see as truth…”. I’m becoming increasingly post-modern.
- The authority of scripture, in my opinion, is seriously inspired. Definitely divine. But inerrant? Probably a stretch. Understand though, I am still very wary of picking and choosing. Very wary.
- I have become more ‘open-minded’. I guess it’s foolish to go somewhere to learn, and end up coming out with all the same knowledge you came with. So I have to open my mind up to things I’ve never thought of before. It’s dangerous, sure. But I’d say the pluses outweigh the minuses.
- I'm having a hard time with this whole 'Hell' thing. Not sure how I feel. God is love, so I have a hard time with that. Jesus is all about the outcasts. Why then , would he turn around and make outcasts of those he loves?
- And on a completely shallow note: I’ve become really health conscious. I’d really like a 6 pack. And I now currently enjoy running. So let’s hope these two can find their way into oneness. (This one might seem out of place, but if all goes as planned, I’ll hopefully get some before and after photos up here in a few months; so it may or may not be relevant.)
Well, I guess this is really just a preview of things to come for this old, dusty webpage-of-a-blog. I apologize for being so lazy with this thing. But I’m hoping to actually use it. It’ll be a journey. And hopefully you’ll see me grow, and mature, and change. I hope, just as well, that you’ll be challenged to tackle these questions as well. I think sometimes we ignore the important questions in order to seek comfort in ignorance, or at least a lack of awareness.
Gotta go write a paper on Adultery now. Hopefully that’ll make for some good material here.
-Mark.
It’s funny to think about really. There’s no sex. Very little swearing. And plus, they’re cartoons.
I do also do this far more often when I listen to music. In particular David Bazan, along with other music. Generally the kind that might have ‘colourful words’, I will in fact shut it as if there’s something wrong. I think I will continue to do so with music that has ‘cursing’ or what have you – since some people might get actually offended by that sort of stuff.
However, on the other hand, David Bazan has some crazy ideas. I’m pretty sure, that thinking of his writings, I would venture to say that he is by no means a Christian, although he used to certainly be. This really comes out in his lyrics. He writes a lot about doubt, which helps me struggle through what my faith means, what I believe, and all other sorts of ethical, moral and religious issues. His music, to me, really is deep and spiritual. However, he touches on topics like adultery, alcohol, and heresy a lot. I mean, a lot. Usually these stories are painted with a brush that reaches the “full breadth of the English language”.
But all that to say, I’d really like to be more open and honest about who I am, and especially what I think. I feel like I sometimes hide my thoughts from others. I don’t want to do that anymore. I guess I’d really like for this blog to turn into my actual thoughts, not really my happenings. The latter will surely affect it, but not solely based off of.
So here are some things that I’ve been thinking a lot about over the last year. And I mean really thinking about (in no particular order):
- If I had grown up in a Muslim, Hindu, or Jewish home (or any other religion), would I believe in that faith as much as I believe in this one? (Nature vs. Nurture…)
-How can the God of the Old Testament be the God of the New? They feel like two different personalities.
-If Jesus really was perfect, why didn’t he cast a stone at the adulterous woman? Or why did he pick grain on the Sabbath? Surely these are requirements of perfection as stated by OT law?…
-Does prayer actually work? I mean, we pray, and if nothing happens, that means God said either, “No,” or “Wait.” But if what we want to have happen happens, then God must’ve said, “Yes”. But really, did it make a difference? Or is there even an alternate reality based off of whether or not I prayed? A time-space-‘Y’ in the “road”, thus altering all of history? Or is my prayer really that important? Is it more for personal growth? (Maybe that is not only a theological question, but just as well, a physics thought. Not that I’ll get the answer, but that’s the point, right? Not really the answer, but the journey of the search for truth? See this for more on my train of thinking this... [http://www.tenthdimension.com/flash2.php]) And understand that I really do still appreciate your prayers just the same. And I’m not saying that your prayers (or mine) are worthless. I still find value in it.
- I’m beginning to think that I believe in inclusive salvation. If you’re not sure what that means, then ask me. I’d like to talk about it.
- I’m not sure whether I believe in creation or evolution. Put a gun to my head? Probably evolution. But not really meaning it with my heart. But if I said creation, my heart wouldn’t be in it either…
- I am having a harder time telling other people they’re wrong (not that I was big on it in the first place). And I’m increasingly using the phrase “Well, what I see as truth…”. I’m becoming increasingly post-modern.
- The authority of scripture, in my opinion, is seriously inspired. Definitely divine. But inerrant? Probably a stretch. Understand though, I am still very wary of picking and choosing. Very wary.
- I have become more ‘open-minded’. I guess it’s foolish to go somewhere to learn, and end up coming out with all the same knowledge you came with. So I have to open my mind up to things I’ve never thought of before. It’s dangerous, sure. But I’d say the pluses outweigh the minuses.
- I'm having a hard time with this whole 'Hell' thing. Not sure how I feel. God is love, so I have a hard time with that. Jesus is all about the outcasts. Why then , would he turn around and make outcasts of those he loves?
- And on a completely shallow note: I’ve become really health conscious. I’d really like a 6 pack. And I now currently enjoy running. So let’s hope these two can find their way into oneness. (This one might seem out of place, but if all goes as planned, I’ll hopefully get some before and after photos up here in a few months; so it may or may not be relevant.)
Well, I guess this is really just a preview of things to come for this old, dusty webpage-of-a-blog. I apologize for being so lazy with this thing. But I’m hoping to actually use it. It’ll be a journey. And hopefully you’ll see me grow, and mature, and change. I hope, just as well, that you’ll be challenged to tackle these questions as well. I think sometimes we ignore the important questions in order to seek comfort in ignorance, or at least a lack of awareness.
Gotta go write a paper on Adultery now. Hopefully that’ll make for some good material here.
-Mark.
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